Episode 727

Designing for Science: Jon Howard on Real Estate, Labs & Innovation

Discover how lab design and science-focused real estate is transforming investing, with Jon Howard of HED sharing strategies, challenges, and insights.

In this episode of RealDealChat, Jack sits down with Jon Howard, architect and sector leader at HED, to explore the specialized world of designing for science-based tenants — from biopharma labs to advanced manufacturing facilities.

Jon shares his career journey, why science-focused real estate is a growing asset class, and how design decisions can make or break a property’s ability to attract tenants. Topics include:

  • Why science and lab facilities are attracting more investors post-COVID
  • The challenges of converting office space into lab-ready facilities
  • What investors should know before targeting science tenants
  • Case studies from national labs, pharma, and materials discovery projects
  • How AI is being used in architectural design and operations
  • The role of sustainability and net-zero goals in lab construction
  • Biggest career lessons learned and advice for new investors entering this space

Whether you’re an investor curious about pivoting into lab real estate, or just fascinated by the intersection of architecture, science, and investing, this episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at a booming niche market.

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Timestamps

00:00 – Intro to Jon Howard & HED

01:00 – Specializing in science & advanced manufacturing design

02:00 – Ground-up vs conversions in lab real estate

03:00 – What counts as “science tenants”

04:00 – Real-world case: chemical storage and zoning issues

06:00 – Amenities, location, and post-COVID tenant expectations

08:00 – Why investors are pivoting into science real estate

10:00 – Jon’s career path into science architecture

11:00 – Finding purpose in helping scientists solve big problems

13:00 – National lab & pharma projects: from tunnels to 150,000 sq ft facilities

16:00 – Pop culture labs: Marvel comparisons & real-life examples

17:00 – How HED is leveraging AI in architecture and design

20:00 – Sustainability, net-zero, and energy efficiency in labs

22:00 – Biggest career lesson: communicate early and often

25:00 – Advice for investors considering science tenants

26:00 – Rapid fire: common lies, early advice, book recommendations

29:00 – Time-saving strategies with AI in architecture

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